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汉化 chinese translation

blin blin Join Date: 2011-07-20 Member: 111290 Members

Hello, guys!

We have a situation here. In my opinion, we should let AXAMDEEP do ALL the chinese translation. He'south been doing it for years already. What is going on at present there is just aweful. It seems that people involved in translation even havent played the game yet and their versions of text are going "+".

It is a serious deal.

Let'southward discuss chinese translation hither.

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  • axamdeep axamdeep Shanghai, Communist china Join Date: 2010-07-02 Member: 72226 Members, Squad Five Blue

    somebody make some stupid translations, for case, Hello -> Become Out(in chinese), i fearfulness that this would ruin the whole chinese translation of NS2.
    only as a Chinese proverb goes, a rat'southward droppings can spoil a whole cauldron of soup.
    Not me stingy, just im a NS mania fans since 2003 :)

  • blin blin Bring together Appointment: 2011-07-20 Member: 111290 Members

    Dont worry, you will be responsible for the last blessing of strings.

    "Nosotros can brand him the one that approves the strings, just this will be done later, don't worry about the scores if in that location'south something funny going on equally information technology always requires human intervention." - Mendasp.

  • axamdeep axamdeep Shanghai, China Join Engagement: 2010-07-02 Fellow member: 72226 Members, Team Five Blue

    有大å"¥è¿™å¥è¯æˆ'å°±æ"¾å¿ƒäº†

  • Mendasp Mendasp I touch on maps in inappropriate places Valencia, Spain Join Date: 2002-07-05 Member: 884 Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Aureate, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Retired Community Programmer

    I have a question for this project in detail. The fonts do not support chinese characters (in fact they're missing a couple of unicode ones), are you using a custom font or something similar this or does nothing display?

    I just made you admin, so you tin can approve strings, although I think, sadly, the chinese characters won't exist supported past 1.0.

  • nggdowt nggdowt Join Engagement: 2012-07-xxx Fellow member: 154461 Members

    i would also dear to assistance out with the translation, been translating a lot these few days.
    axamdeep, tin can y'all please approve the strings that don't need translating at all? And so people tin end trying to tranlate those? (like MAC,ARC babblers due east.t.c)

    edit: I would love to aid out if I accept admin rights. But I guess information technology'd be quite a adventure since I "joined" the forum yesterday? Been a loyal fan since NS1 and I accept been paying close attension to NS2 developement procedure. not a native speaker per say, but my native linguistic communication is chinese ( traditional) and the 2 languages is VERY translatable. Plus I am too a programmer so I suppose that would be a plus since I really knows how Strings, config filies and encoding works?

  • axamdeep axamdeep Shanghai, People's republic of china Bring together Date: 2010-07-02 Fellow member: 72226 Members, Squad Five Blue

    <!--quoteo(mail service=1955385:engagement=Jul 31 2012, 11:44 PM:name=nggdowt)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nggdowt @ Jul 31 2012, 11:44 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1955385"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->i would too love to aid out with the translation, been translating a lot these few days.
    axamdeep, can you delight approve the strings that don't need translating at all? So people can stop trying to tranlate those? (like MAC,ARC babblers e.t.c)

    edit: I would love to aid out if I have admin rights. Merely I guess it'd be quite a run a risk since I "joined" the forum yesterday? Been a loyal fan since NS1 and I have been paying close attension to NS2 developement process. not a native speaker per say, simply my native language is chinese ( traditional) and the two languages is VERY translatable. Plus I am too a programmer so I suppose that would be a plus since I actually knows how Strings, config filies and encoding works?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    你好，实话说æˆ'不æ‰"算看你的这行英文是因为既然你的资料 显 示你FROM HONG KONG，
    å'±ä»¬å®Œå…¨å¯ä»¥ä½¿ç"¨ä¸­æ–‡äº¤æµï¼Œä¸­å›½äººå'Œä¸­å›½äººè¯´è‹±è¯­ï¼Œ 显 çš„ 有些见外了

    另外æˆ'æ‰"ç®—å'官方提议加一个 繁ä½"中文 的项目进去，这样更合适一些。

  • axamdeep axamdeep Shanghai, China Bring together Date: 2010-07-02 Member: 72226 Members, Squad 5 Blue

    <!--quoteo(postal service=1955307:appointment=Jul 31 2012, 05:08 PM:name=Mendasp)--><div form='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mendasp @ Jul 31 2012, 05:08 PM) <a href="alphabetize.php?act=findpost&pid=1955307"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div course='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I have a question for this project in item. The fonts do not support chinese characters (in fact they're missing a couple of unicode ones), are you using a custom font or something like this or does aught brandish?

    I just made you admin, and then y'all tin corroborate strings, although I think, sadly, the chinese characters won't be supported by 1.0.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    yeah, i always edit related .lua file to change fonts and font size for display chinese fonts (such as change "..\AgencyFB.fnt" to "Arial"), subsequently a new build release.
    now im trying to do something with display of custom font. but it failed, even if i made a correct .png+.fnt file, and i had tested it in other game and it's ok. but it cannot display the unicode characters in ns2, i take no idea most this.

  • blin blin Join Engagement: 2011-07-20 Member: 111290 Members

    同意！

    to Mendasp:

    tin you delight add Chinese (Traditional)?

    nosotros take people from HK and Taiwan here too, allow them do the translation themselves.

  • Mendasp Mendasp I touch maps in inappropriate places Valencia, Spain Join Engagement: 2002-07-05 Fellow member: 884 Members, NS1 Playtester, Correspondent, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad 5 Gilt, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Retired Community Programmer

    Done, whatsoever suggestions for people that can approve them?

  • blin blin Join Engagement: 2011-07-twenty Fellow member: 111290 Members

    is information technology possible to modify this thread'due south name to 汉化（简ä½"） chinese translation (simplified) ?

    as for a recommendation for HK or taiwanese players - not however, lets beginning come across how they will proceed with the work.

    of course they can only employ axamdeep's version (I hope he wont disagree) (merely with traditional characters), but as expirience shows they prefer to use their own interpretations, which are ok too.

  • nggdowt nggdowt Join Date: 2012-07-xxx Fellow member: 154461 Members

    指引不是说，不要翻è¯'非描述性建ç­'物名称？(arsenal ,control station e.t.c.)
    不是想怀ç–'你，只是好奇，想知é"背后的原å›
    æˆ'知é"它会在相同的语言听起来好了很多，但开å'者也许有ä»
    –们的理ç"±ï¼Ÿ

  • axamdeep axamdeep Shanghai, China Join Date: 2010-07-02 Member: 72226 Members, Team Five Blueish

    <!--quoteo(post=1955549:date=Aug 1 2012, 07:09 PM:name=nggdowt)--><div course='quotetop'>QUOTE (nggdowt @ Aug 1 2012, 07:09 PM) <a href="index.php?human activity=findpost&pid=1955549"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div course='quotemain'><!--quotec-->指引不是说，不要翻è¯'非描述性建ç­'物名称？(armory ,control station eastward.t.c.)
    不是想怀ç–'你，只是好奇，想知é"背后的原å›
    æˆ'知é"它会在相同的语言听起来好了很多，但开å'者也许有ï¿
    ½
    �
    �们的理ç"±ï¼Ÿ<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    按理来说是不åº"该翻è¯'，举例来说，每个人都能æ‰"出hive这个 词，但并不是每个人都会在语音中说出"hive"这句英文，要考è™'到一些人看得懂但不会说，为了方便语
    音交流
    æˆ'决定在汉化中采ç"¨ä¸­è‹±ç»"合的方法，例如 “母巢(Hive)遭受æ"»å‡»â€ï¼Œ “军械åº"(Armory)建造完成”，这也是æˆ'在汉化NS1时遵循的原则
    。

  • nggdowt nggdowt Join Date: 2012-07-xxx Member: 154461 Members

    嗯嗯,æˆ'个人一样是偏å'中+英,就是怕会对句子ç»"æž„æ"¹åŠ¨è¿‡å¤§.
    marine可以中+英,但alien那边有一大堆都是没法æ"¹çš„. 一边中+英, 一边英会不会很怪?

  • nggdowt nggdowt Join Date: 2012-07-30 Member: 154461 Members

    剛看到NO_COMM那字串 , 你要的是"æˆ'们需要有人来担任指挥官，谁能胜任"吧?
    那個40ç§'(?)出來一次,太長會一直æ"‹ä½çŽ©å®¶çš„视线,可以短一點嗎??

  • axamdeep axamdeep Shanghai, China Join Date: 2010-07-02 Member: 72226 Members, Squad Five Blue

    <!--quoteo(post=1955968:date=Aug ii 2012, 09:44 PM:name=nggdowt)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nggdowt @ Aug 2 2012, 09:44 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1955968"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->剛看到NO_COMM那字串 , 你要的是"æˆ'们需要有人来担任指挥官，谁能胜任"吧?
    那個40ç§'(?)出來一次,太長會一直æ"‹ä½çŽ©å®¶çš„视线,可以短一點嗎??<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    如果一句话你觉得太长挡着视线，试问如何把这句话（举例 ） ： “位于SUB ACCESS的资源å¡"正在遭受æ"»å‡»â€ 或“位于SERVER ROOM的母巢建造完成” 这样的长句提示缩短？这种提示也是经常会出现在游戏屏幕 æ­£ 上方的

    不会是以“SUBACCESS的矿被æ‰"” 这样来缩短吧？

  • nggdowt nggdowt Join Date: 2012-07-30 Member: 154461 Members

    SUB Access - 资源å¡"遭受æ"»å‡»
    SERVER ROOM - 母巢建造完成

    可以吗?

    你的例子要表达的信息太多,长一点没办法, 但NO_COMM 那个明显加入了"感情", 把6个字可以说完的事拉长.
    你的例子都有一种"简洁,描述" 的风格, NO_COMM 那个格格不入(个人意见)
    那些跳出的信息都是要在战斗中引起人注意的, 太长就不好了.
    最后,其实那一些跳出的信息可以不ç"¨å®Œæ•´å¥å­,正常人玩four 5 次大è„'就习惯了,会自动过滤掉语法了, 说重点就好.
    个人认为心态不åº"是"都有æ¯"那个长的,没关系啦"而是"那个æ¯"这个短å–",可以把这个精减吗?"

    edit: 游戏类型不同,句子ç»"构都要不一样. RPG/Turn base of operations strategy 可以长一点, FPS RTS 在游戏时会ç"¨åˆ°çš„就一定要短, FPS玩家没时间慢慢看的. 以明显的记号éš"开重要信息可以使人的眼睛快速聚焦到重点.

  • axamdeep axamdeep Shanghai, Cathay Bring together Date: 2010-07-02 Fellow member: 72226 Members, Team Five Blue

    <!--quoteo(post=1956033:date=Aug three 2012, 12:48 AM:name=nggdowt)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nggdowt @ Aug three 2012, 12:48 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1956033"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->SUB ACCESS - 资源å¡"遭受æ"»å‡»
    SERVER ROOM - 母巢建造完成

    可以吗?

    你的例子要表达的信息太多,长一点没办法, 但NO_COMM 那个明显加入了"感情", 把6个字可以说完的事拉长.
    你的例子都有一种"简洁,描述" 的风格, NO_COMM 那个格格不入(个人意见)
    那些跳出的信息都是要在战斗中引起人注意的, 太长就不好了.
    最后,其实那一些跳出的信息可以不ç"¨å®Œæ•´å¥å­,正常人玩4 5 次大è„'就习惯了,会自动过滤掉语法了, 说重点就好.
    个人认为心态不åº"是"都有æ¯"那个长的,没关系啦"而是"那个æ¯"这个短å–",可以把这个精减吗?"

    edit: 游戏类型不同,句子ç»"构都要不一样. RPG/Turn base strategy 可以长一点, FPS RTS 在游戏时会ç"¨åˆ°çš„就一定要短, FPS玩家没时间慢慢看的. 以明显的记号éš"开重要信息可以使人的眼睛快速聚焦到重点.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    没é"™ï¼Œè¦çš„就是催人去å½"COMM的效果，而不是句子长不长短不 短 的问题。你只要玩上100小时NS1或NS2，åº"该意识到战斗中缺å°'CO
    MM一般有几种情况 1.开局one-2分é'ŸåŽè¿˜æ²¡æœ‰äººåšCOMM ii.COMM出来干活，不幸中了埋伏，重ç"Ÿè¿‡ç¨‹ä¸­æ— äººæ‹…ä»»COMM iii.本局陆战队注定会è¾"/会赢，连COMM都端起武器参战了

    在NS1里 缺å°'COMM时是不会有这种提示的，这是引æ"Žæ²¡æœ‰çš„功能可以理 解 。 但 NS2里 缺å°'COMM时左上è§'的小地图下æ"¾ä¼šæç¤ºâ€œno commander” 也就是 没有指挥官，还是ç"¨çš„亮红色字ä½"，并连续闪烁，难é"不是 为 了提é†' 人 们 的注意吗
    。
    你想一想，就算没有banner提示（即屏幕正上方的文字提示） ， 只要不是色盲 ，肯定能通过minimap下方的闪烁红字来得知 å½"前没有指挥官，因为存在指挥官时字ä½"是黄色的， ç"±é»„变红，就像交通信号灯一样，很容æ˜"引起人们的注意。

    UWE 在 banner 中加入 no commander 的信息作为强调，是多此一举å'¢ï¼Œè¿˜æ˜¯å¦æœ‰å…¶æ„ï¼Ÿ æˆ'个人认为是后者。 如果是后者，就åº"该把意思表达确切，而非ç"Ÿæ¬ç¡¬å¥—。 不如问问看看developer们怎么说。

  • nggdowt nggdowt Bring together Date: 2012-07-thirty Fellow member: 154461 Members

    <!--quoteo(mail=1956103:date=Aug 3 2012, 04:38 AM:name=axamdeep)--><div grade='quotetop'>QUOTE (axamdeep @ Aug 3 2012, 04:38 AM) <a href="alphabetize.php?act=findpost&pid=1956103"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->你想一想，就算没有banner提示（即屏幕正上方的文字提示） ， 只要不是色盲 ，肯定能通过minimap下方的闪烁红字来得知 å½"前没有指挥官，因为存在指挥官时字ä½"是黄色的， ç"±é»„变红，就像交通信号灯一样，很容æ˜"引起人们的注意。

    UWE 在 banner 中加入 no commander 的信息作为强调，是多此一举å'¢ï¼Œè¿˜æ˜¯å¦æœ‰å…¶æ„ï¼Ÿ æˆ'个人认为是后者。 如果是后者，就åº"该把意思表达确切，而非ç"Ÿæ¬ç¡¬å¥—。 不如问问看看developer们怎么说。<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    不一定,有的时候真的会看不到, 人的主要视è§'是正前方60~度, 别的都是附加视è§'. 战斗中时大è„'都会先处理那里的信息. banner çš„ç"¨é€"(æˆ'认为) 是要把UI中一些不太明显的信息置中,不必太大修æ"¹.

    PS æˆ'都玩NS1 2~3年了算是有点经验吧?

  • nggdowt nggdowt Join Date: 2012-07-xxx Member: 154461 Members

    增加了一个超连ç»"从翻è¯'页面到这里

  • axamdeep axamdeep Shanghai, China Join Date: 2010-07-02 Member: 72226 Members, Squad Five Blueish

    <!--quoteo(post=1956887:engagement=Aug 4 2012, 03:40 PM:name=nggdowt)--><div course='quotetop'>QUOTE (nggdowt @ Aug 4 2012, 03:40 PM) <a href="alphabetize.php?human action=findpost&pid=1956887"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->增加了一个超连ç»"从翻è¯'页面到这里<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    好样的，æˆ'看好ä½

  • axamdeep axamdeep Shanghai, Mainland china Join Date: 2010-07-02 Member: 72226 Members, Squad Five Blue

    计åˆ'在9月14日之前把汉化条目推进到90%以上

  • twiliteblue twiliteblue bug stalker Bring together Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13116 Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad V Blue

    Hi! I accept translated a few more than strings. Is anyone else nonetheless working on them?
    大家好！æˆ'帮助翻è¯'了几句。还有人有空在翻吗？

  • nggdowt nggdowt Join Date: 2012-07-30 Fellow member: 154461 Members

    to be honest I am slightly disappointed, The translation thing seems to be...worthless?
    A Huge part of the game uses character set/encoding that doesn't non support simplify/traditional chinese.
    I found this out later I started translating too.

    So I guess those 2 translation is on concur for at present until nosotros get some good news.

  • twiliteblue twiliteblue bug stalker Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13116 Members, NS2 Playtester, Team V Blue

    <!--quoteo(mail service=2017075:date=Nov 10 2012, 03:10 AM:proper name=nggdowt)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nggdowt @ Nov x 2012, 03:x AM) <a href="index.php?deed=findpost&pid=2017075"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->to be honest I am slightly disappointed, The translation thing seems to be...worthless?
    A Huge part of the game uses graphic symbol fix/encoding that doesn't not support simplify/traditional chinese.
    I constitute this out afterward I started translating as well.

    So I estimate those 2 translation is on concord for now until nosotros get some good news.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Awww that is also bad. I don't take much feel with text encoding at all, so I'll have to take your words.

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